I only saw it for a very short while among my Angels. I now suppose it meant they were pairing off. I don't know if the mouth-lock also means aggression. Then, Jim, can you help at all? I had 2 Angels when we were stationed in Germany and they did the lip-lock for a while.
And not long after that they layed eggs,but I didn't know what I was doing so the fry didn't survive. Not that I would know now But atleast now I have all of you to help me out whenever I need help. There's nothing yet, but they seem to be just under a year old basing on the size of one of my angels.
Since that scene, they have been sticking together more and will do everything together too. Similar Aquarium Threads. Question Reducing Aggression.
KieranKD May 18, Angelfish. Replies 2 Views May 18, WRWAquarium. Question Angelfish spawning? Did i move wrong fish. Lvmyfsh Jul 13, Angelfish. Replies 0 Views Jul 13, Lvmyfsh. Yeah thanks guys. I think I am driving myself crazy trying to keep these two healthy, and I guess those white "spots" were airbubbles. I think I am overfeeding trying to get the male to eat. With every water change and substrate vacuum I pick up 6 or more pellets that are going fungusy. I will have to be more careful.
Problem is; the female takes all his food even when he tries to go for it. And when she does he gets annoyed and goes after her. His eye is looking a whole lot better. That rainbow fish is stunning.
I wonder how it would do in my community tank. What is the temperament of rainbows? Well, rpddink, I'm not sure. I think when it's mate aggression and both are ready to breed it looks like a trial of strength where the partners are checking out the fitness of the other to create healthy young. Once this is established they seem to be best friends. In between my spawnings it looked as though they didn't want to share the tank space with each other. Both partners had spells where they had their fins ripped and they were hiding behind the filter.
I'd call that fighting! Norman, thanks for the praise of my Rainbow. You are on the right track there with managing the Angels. I put all the food in at once over an area which allowed both fish to collect their share. If I put smaller amounts in one area one of my fish would end up in the perfect spot to hog the lot and deprive the other! The Rainbows I have are very sturdy, quick and vigorous fish that need swimming space.
Angels won't get near them and I can't imagine the rainbows would harm the Angels, they haven't in my tanks. I would think they would be great companions. My Rainbows are first to the food but are not in any way aggressive to other species.
Unless feeding and breeding, they cruise around in a relaxed way or shoal together in the same spot. Kathy Potts also has some beauties and googling her thread on them brought me to this forum. Simonlaw, many thanks for your praise about "Niabo" my male Boeseman's Rainbow. I value your comment highly. I raised my rainbows from donated newly-hatched fry. This fish is 5. I have collected fry from the tank and am rearing them easily on infusoria and then crushed flake. Check out my album in my profile.
There are a few differences to look out for but are difficult to find. If you have well mannered Angelfish then the mate dance will have one Angelfish turn the side of their body to face the aggressor instead of head to head. You may notice tail vibrations too from the female if she is trying to impress the male. However it often enough gets too rough and starts looking like a normal fight.
Redshark is right - It's a trial of strength and vigor so mating aggression rarely lasts more than a week and any liplocking doesn't last more than a couple of days. If it lasts longer than that then it means it's an incompatible pair or it's just normal fighting. This is very intresting information Simon and intriquing as well. With my angels the lip locking didn't seem terribly aggressive and in the end the male would sort of lay on his side at the bottom of the tank which sort of said "OK you win".
I wonder if the rainbows might be a better choice for my 75G instead of more angels. Are they better kept in schools? That is one stunning fish redshark I have one male and three females. I think one male and two females may also be fine as more than one female shares the male's enthusiasm out when spawning. There will be aggression between 2 or more males.
In my case the other males did not survive as this male is very vigorous. Pic of one of my females below not quite so impressive, I know! A pity you don't live closer as I have a trio of young fish, a male and two females, to give away. These are children of the fish above. Thank you so much for the info! This has cleared up a lot for me!!!!! Yeah Redshark that is too bad.
Those are lovely fish I went tonight to the fishie store but saw nothing even close to comparable. Similar Aquarium Threads K. Angelfish locking lips? Kwaters20 Sep 10, Angelfish. Replies 2 Views Sep 11, Flyfisha. One of them became the dominant one after a lip-locking incident. After that, it went downhill for the loser.
He was constantly harrassed. He would always hide in the plants, usually in whatever position he landed in after a panicked retreat from the dominant angel. He'd only come out to feed and then be quickly chased back into the plants.
Eventually, he got so stressed that he began to lose color. His fins even began to erode. I took him out and fixed him up in a quarantine tank. He seems to be a little larger than the dominant angel now so I'm going to try and reintroduce him.
If that doesn't work, I'll have to trade him in to the LFS. Anyway, IME, the behavior you've seen will most likely get worse with time. I would get a larger tank ASAP or you'll probably lose an angel. You really need a bigger tank anyway. Your angels will also need something larger than a 20 gallon.
Dec 21, 11, 1 38 64 Spanaway, Wa. Real Name Ed. I have several breeding pairs.. Some people think that angelfish mate for life. But this is not true. If angelfish pair off and their mating produces young ones, one of the parents can choose to seek another mate later on, especially after a few spawns.
The reasons why this happens tend to vary. Some people have speculated that the fish in question have an evolutionary drive to keep the gene pool diverse. Regardless of the reason, one of the fish could take violent action to chase his or her partner away, and that can result in lip-locking.
Not only does the abandoned angelfish have nowhere else to go, but, in many cases, the aggressor will find that there are no suitable partners with which it can pursue a mating partnership. The chances that it will eventually resume its collaboration with the first angelfish are pretty high.
If your fish are locking lips out of aggression, you probably wonder where this hostility comes from. Several reasons might drive your angelfish to act violently towards one another. Like most animals, angelfish will try to establish a pecking order, especially if the tank is small.
It is quite common for the biggest among them to cement their dominance over their smaller counterparts through violence. This can result in lip-locking.
But this is rare. In the face of aggression, most fish are quick to submit, especially if the purpose is to establish a hierarchy. Also, angelfish of the same gender will sometimes fight over a potential mate. In such situations, the fish are fierier. They are less likely to back down, which is why lip-locking is more likely. Besides, as was mentioned above, a female will attack a male that has refused to leave after courtship rejection.
Some males merely take the battering from their female aggressors. They will only turn to lock lips if the assault grows to unacceptable levels. Also mentioned above is the fact that an angelfish will use violence to chase a partner away if it finally decides to seek out a new mate.
If your new angelfish are continually fighting, you are naturally going to question your decision to buy them. You are going wonder whether the species is usually violent and if you are not merely better off replacing them with more peaceful creatures. Freshwater angelfish are rarely aggressive.
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